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My boyfriend and I went to Herbal Magic for a consultation when they had a "$99 promotion" on. The promo price includes only the consultations/coaching, not the pills. For the two of us (including an additional discount for joining together), the price came to over $10,000.00 for a year's-worth of pills. Additionally, Herbal Magic is closed evenings and weekends. Poor way to run a business like this. 

I started with a voucher that I got for 2 weeks program at u weigh and when I went there they started taking all my information and gave me reciepies then we talked about prices. She wanted me to sign a 9 months contract saying that this is their way and there is no other way to do it.. I didn't have a void check then so she said pay a deposite (300$) and I email her the check when home. I didn't like it at all but all what I thought of is I will lose the voucher besides I will Benifit from the diet. Especially that she calculated a monthly fee of around 200$ so anyway.. She then was doing the calculation for me, each time mixing up numbers and very complicated to understand , then when it came to the starter kit she said don't worry u will pay only for the u lose pills others are free and she kept adding 100% discount on each item (other stuff are rubbish) so she gave me the kit and I left. When I returned home my husband said that this is a rip off don't sign a contract and do it monthly . At the end I only wanted to lose 15 pounds so why keep on a diet for 9 months. And at the end that's way too off our budget. So I came the other day, told her so, they didn't have any issue to do it monthly !!!!!! BUT I have to pay for the kit that I took which costs 350$ and the u weigh which is additional 60$ !!!!!! Whatttttttt and I never used them yet because they are of course no 1 do not worth a 5 dollars and they are non sense. And she said by law I can't return them back. So at the end I had 2 choices either to consider the 400$ I already paid for the kit and go home and that's it or to pay additional 260$ and have a one month consultancy but I still have to pay 60$ weekly for the pills... I hate my self and hate them of course and I will never recommend them to anyone!!! Ever.. I have been to dr Bernstein and they r way nicer and better.. 

I had a very good experience with U loss. I lost 20lbs, I felt good and will go back when I can afford it. Yes, U loss is exspensive (I paid about $600.00+$65.00 a week for the supplements)and it would be nice if ya didn't have to pay that much. The consultants where nice and very professional. I like the fact that I was able to pick and choose what I wanted to eat. It was very healthy and a good choices of food. I was only able to do the program for only 3 months, but it was enough to get me started on lossing more weight. I have about another 100lbs to go. After the 3 months I was on my own which was ok and I have maintained my 20lb loss.

U loss called me about a month ago to ask how I was doing. I told them I was  doing well and maintaining the 20lbs I lost. Alex was very please with that, but of course she asked if I would like to come back to the program. I said I would love to, but as for now I can not afford it. She was very understanding and hoped maybe later it would be more feasible for me to come back. Maybe next spring I saidand she said that would be great and she hope to hear from me then.

I would say from the comments I've read to may sure you know what you are getting into. Don't get me wrong I've been scramed by weight loss programs (I've been on a lot of them) but U loss worked for me and when I can afford it I will go back.

I've started the U program three weeks ago and recently found out I'm pregnant.  Since you cannot take the supplements while pregnant, the program has put my program on hold until I'm ready to come back in a year or so.  May seem like a nice gesture until they told me I still have to pay for the stupid program and 20 weeks worth of supplements that they happily tagged onto my bill at the consultation.  And it's not a consultation when you go in there to inquire and they start drawing up the contract before asking you if you want to join. 

So three weeks, lost only 2.9 frickin' pounds but gained alot of slack and blame for not losing weight AND an unethical bill of $2600 for a program I can't even use.  U weight losses answer: It's not our fault you got pregnant!!

I don't recommend this program.  All you're paying for is a detox (go to GNC and buy Wholly Tea), and supplements that proved nothing to me.  And the $30 a week "coaching" fee is really only getting meal plans, taking your weight and inches and ask "how's it going".  You can do that all yourself without paying the ridiculous fee. 

TWO THUMBS DOWN!   

I joined Herbal Magic in Feb 2011, at an advertised discounted cost, however, after going to my lst meeting, a lot of pressure was put on me, to sign up for a year.  The more questions I asked, the more vague the answers were.  Neverthesless I was sucked in and paid.  The next meeting I am told what I paid (over $1,000.00) did not include the weekly costs of pills which were approximately $80.00 per week.  I started adding it all up and decided to hell with it.  They also required I show up several times per week and at the time I was working about 5 blocks away and had to use a cane to walk.  I had 30 minutes for lunch, so had to get there, get weighed in, have them do the "talk" and get to work late.  Within a few days I DEMANDED a refund as each new visit brought new cost information, which I considered wholly inappropriate given most of my questions had been related to total costs and many were hidden.  Each employee blamed the other for not telling me (within 3 days I had 3 different "sales" aka "counsellors" have a go at me, which I figured was to confuse me on costs and program.  I not only got a full refund, I also was told to keep the started kit at no charge.  They did not make a cent out of me, they lost money by screwing with me.  Boo hoo.

I just enquired about U Weight Loss, as their program (not much information listed) resembles Herbal Magic.  Thanks to this site, my enquiry about that program ends here.  Thanks for the great website!

Louise

here's the official email from Herbal Magic, to me:

earlier emails to and from Krista, the Manager of the Queen Street, Ottawa, ON location where I joined include the following:

----- Original Message -----

From: Herbal Magic - Ottawa 5

To: Louise 

Cc: 'Eric Rochefort' ; 'Ramona Grimard'

Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 12:41 PM

Subject: RE: Please issue me an immediate refund

Good Morning Louise,

 

I would like to apologies for the miscommunication amongst us all. It was never our intention in any way to have you feel this way or be confused about our program. I do realize we cannot go back and change the situation but I do think it is important for us to apologize and move forward from here to make things better.

 

Herbal magic will refund you the FULL AMOUNT OF 1059.26$. I have asked to waive the starter kit of 199.00$ and free supplements that were not refundable.  You can keep it all and there is no need to return it or for me to pick up the kit. It was a  misunderstanding and you will receive all your money back. Since, you did not pay visa or mc we are unfortunately not able to process the refund immediately back onto your card. However, they have sent out your full credit check by express mail and informed me you should receive it within 2 weeks. Please do not hesitate to let us know when you receive the refund so we are aware it is all taken care of. Have a great day!!

 

Thanking you kindly in advance,

 

Krista

 

From: Louise
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:25 PM
To: Herbal Magic - Ottawa 5
Cc: interested@herbalmagic.ca
Subject: Please issue me an immediate refund
Importance: High

 

Krista

 

As I indicated during my meeting at your franchine today, where it was revealed to me for the first time that I am expected to purchase $80.00 (ish) of weekly supplements on top of the $1K+ that I already paid this week which I was told repeatedly by both you and Rob was the ENTIRE COST of the entire program for 2 years,  I want an immediate and full refund.  You guaranteed I would get it upon request, if I asked for one, for any reason. You did not tell me I would have to wait for weeks, for a paper cheque, and since I paid through debit, I am willing to make one last trip to your office, so you can credit my debit card - something all ethical and honest organizations do, upon request from customers.

 

 I had specifically told Rob, on my first consultation, that  I did not want to be on a weight loss system where I have to weigh, measure, calculate my food intake and this is why I had quit going to Weight Watchers.   He assured me I would not have to do that.   My next consultation was with you, and you assured me that I had to do all of the things Rob told me I would not have to do, and that I had told him, I was not interested in doing and was the reason I left Weight Watchers.

 

How can 2 people who work at Herbal Magic at the same location, neglect to also mention that I am expected to spend another $80.00+ per week, for months to come, when I had already had a few consultations and we exchanged many emails?

 

You explained to me, when I did not want to pay $1K+ on the spot, that I could pay just $200.00 upfront and the rest we would come to some agreement about me paying later.  You asked Rob why he did not mention it to me, and he said he knew nothing about this issue, so you explained to me that it was simply an installation arrangement that required a year commitment, but I pay only $200.00 upfront.  It was passed under something else - and included me having to sign a document that said NO REFUNDS, right after you told me there would be a full refund, if I requested one.  I believed it was just an accounting ruse, to have me sign this paper, so I went along, not really knowing how it might actually be used since I have nothing you told me, in writing. Though I signed that  paper I did not end up wanting the $200.00+ installment plan and paid the next day, $500.00 via debit and the following day, just over $559.00.  You told me you would figure out the paperwork, given I had signed that document regarding an amount of $200.00 and you assured me that it was now void and that you would figure out how to make things add up so that I am not charged more than what Rob quoted me, a little over $1,000.00 for 2 years, all included. 

 

Now the young lady I saw today, told me you actually gave me a $300.00 discount, and said the program was $300.00 more than what I paid.  At no time did Rob even suggest that I was getting some discount.  He simply told me the fee was the entire cost of the program, for 2 years. Confusion seems to reign in your office, about what the costs are, or what to tell clients, and how to keep the stories straight between the three of you on Queen Street.  Nobody ever tells me the same thing twice! Though the young lady I saw today said I had to talk to you about a refund, even though I had written on the contract I wanted one, dated it, signed it and kept a copy and in additional had verbally told her I wanted a full refund, and though you were there and my appointment was with you today I was told you were unavailable.  I said I could wait, and the young lady said that was fine.  Minutes later she asked me to come back tomorrow, and since I was prepared to wait, I said I would not inconvenience myself by coming back, since I was already on location.  Given she kept asking me to come back, I decided I had enough of the contradictions (stay, leave, come back), I told her I was very upset, did not want to come back so that you would have an opportunity to give me some other story and try to talk me out of a refund, so I just told her to tell you about my displeasure, my wish for a refund, and left empty handed. What a way to run a business!  I'll be sure to tell all those who ask me what I think of Herbal Magic.  In fact I am so angry at your organization, I have friends in the media I might just contact.

 

The young lady I saw today also had the nerve to tell me that the little document you made me sign, to benefit from the so called payment arrangement of $200.00 upfront, will be deducted from my refund, as they were my cost to purchase items I did not about, i.e., the supplements, the food plan, the weekly diary, and probably some or all of the items in my welcome bag.  She could not explain why all costs had not been discussed with me, and neither did she offer to discuss them, until I saw what was in the contract - then, she told me that of course, the supplements at an estimated cost of $80.00 per week (and some weeks more), were not included.

 

So now you know why I want a refund.  I also request it be given to me in the way I paid -  via a credit to my bank account  Please contact me only for that purpose - to set up a time I can come back in and you can process the credit on my bank card. I don't want to hear from you for any other reason.  If you want the items back that I never agreed to purchase, , please inform me via email of the day you can come pick them up at my home, where I am available between 6-8 pm only.

 

I am sending a copy of this, for starters, to the above email address which I am hoping reaches your legal counsel, at Head Office.

U weight loss worked for me. I have to say I never had a problem with the coaches there, they were all very friendly and very helpful.  First of all let me tell you I didn't have to pay for this program for the most part, I won a chance for 10 weeks last year to be in a contest.  I took advantage of that.  I went the first day and received all the information.  I got measured and weighed and my menus.  I asked several questions and took down some notes as to what they told me so I wouldn't forget.  The detox week was so great.  I lost 14 pounds following exactly what they told me to do.  Anything that was on my menus that I didn't care for they found me a substitute for it.  They did tell me the first week I may end up with headaches but that didn't happen.  The reason for this is because of the lack of caffine from maybe coffee or soda but I didn't normally drink either so it was easier for me.  Every time I went they asked me if I wanted more receipes and I usually asked for more just so I could have a nice variety.  I felt like I was eating way more than I normally did but it was because of the foods I was eating.  For the 10 weeks I was on this program I wasn't hassled at all, in fact I kept asking to try the suppliments and they told me I really didn't need them, I was doing great without them.  I did purchase some on my own and found they helped to boost my energy and weight loss.  In the 10 weeks I was on this I lost 39 pounds and 46 inches.  I didn't end up signing up for the program after the contest was over becasue I live in the US and I couldn't sign a contract in Canada for a program that they could take the money out of my account by law.  I continued to use the recipes for about 8 weeks longer and lost a total of 68 pounds.  I have kept most of it off and credit it to U weightloss because of the coaches that taught me the difference in how to eat the correct foods for me.

I read through some of these posts and I have to agree with both some positive and some negative things about U weight loss.  I joined last year in September, at 280lbs, so I had a lot to lose.  With a 1 year program it was a lot of money, but as someone else said, knowing how much money I paid for this really motivated me to stay on track and follow the program.  I'll give you the two best and the two worst things about the program for me, my opinion only:

Good thing #1:  It works.  I have lost 60 lbs (and I definitely haven't been on-track 100% of the time, more like 75-80% of the time) and I now understand what works for me and what I have to do in order to lose weight.  When you follow the program, it does work. 

Good thing #2:  Going in 3x/week can sometimes feel like going to confession, but it keeps you on track, it keeps you motivated, and when you are having a problem, or have questions about nutrition, etc., the coaches, generally, can help you and explain things to you. 

Bad thing #1:  It is expensive... but so is personal training or seeing a nutritionist on a regular basis (I know you can see one for free at a doctor's office, but definitely not 3x/week, and not in after-work hours!) 

Bad thing #2:  The exercise program is kind of a joke.  The yoga video is fairly good to get started with, but then you really need to amp it up.  Their solution for me was to go walking, or they gave me a 20 min "exercise program" that consisted of doing some squats, lunges, and some upper body stuff... really not enough exercise at all.  I decided to ignore the "exercise" portion of this program and I joined Goodlife.  I am not one to push myself, especially in cardio, so I do the classes and I love them because you're sort of forced to keep up.  So, yeah exercise part of U Weight loss sucks.

Bad thing #3: (I had one more...) Some of the coaches are so unknowledgable... There was one specifically at the clinic I go to who I just hated being coached by, it felt like more like being interogated than coached.  I remember I told her that I was having a lot of cravings (becasue of that time of the month) and I wanted some advice on what I could do.  She told me I should eat a salad cause the crunch of the lettuce would make me feel full... I pretty much laughed and said I'll ask a different coach for some advice next time.  I haven't seen her in a few weeks, hopefully she quit or was fired.... :)   But there are 3 EXCELLENT coaches at my clinic and they're very knowledgable and helpful. 

One piece of advice I have is to not give in and buy the extras the minute they try to sell them to you.  start with the basic U Loss and omega 3.  That's all you really need.  I'm just starting out my career, so I let them know that I couldn't afford anything extra than what I already had paid for, and of course they still tried to sell it to me.  Once certain coaches understood, they stopped trying to sell to me, but the owner of the branch was very persistant. But because I had said I coudln't afford it so many times the discounts that I got when I finally decided to upgrade to use some of the other products was great.  I think almost 50% off of what I would have paid if I had said yes to it the first time they tried to sell them to me. So, even if you can afford it, don't buy it for full price.  They can offer you crazy discounts if you refuse enough.

If you just want to follow the recipes, but not pay for the vitamins (I gave my sister the recipes, and she lost 30lbs just by following them)  it's a very simple breakdown of nutrients... 40% Carbs, 30% Protein and 30% fats.  Breakfast is generally 300 cal, Lunch and dinner are 400 calories, and you would have 1 or 2 snacks at 200 calories each (total of 1300-1500 calories/day)  You can find programs online that if you put in the grams of carbs, proteins and fats it will give you the percentage of each.  A lot of people who go on diets avoid fat like the plague, but this program taught me that your body needs the good fats, and it's okay to eat good fats in the proper amounts.  I also found that just following this balanced approach to meals that I didn't have any cravings after the first few weeks (and those weeks were super hard to get through!) 

So, overall I'd say I'm a somewhat satisfied customer.  Some things could definitely be better (price, exercice, some coaches), but I can't ignore the success I've had.  It's easy to start a diet and stick with it for a while, but on this program when you start to fall off, you still have to go 3 times a week and face them and the scale, when you're on your own, you can pretend you don't have a scale lol, and there's nobody to be accountable to.  I would reccommend the program to friends and family, but with some warnings. 

This seems just like the Direct Buy club in that they will not tell you a thing about cost or anything until you have been subjected to the full sales pitch. If they had told me at the beginning that the mandatory supplements alone would cost $60+tax PER WEEK!, I would have walk away right then and there! MAybe it works, but I suspect a lot of the weight loss stems from the lightening of your wallet. No thank you.

`I just read most of the reviews and it is pretty silly. So many negative reviews. I really think some of the negative reviews are made up. People spending 2700 and 1500 dollars on pills and supplements? Why would you be so stupid to pay that much? Why not start off at the least expensive level and see how it goes? If it is working for you then you can increase if you think it is worth it. This is the problem with society and that is no one will take responsibility. Also how much money do most of the overweight people spend a year on junk food? Probably over $1000. Do you people cry and blame Mcdonald's? Grow up and take responsibility.